There is pain that is peculiar to astrologers: the jeers and skepticism of the world. There is also joy that’s reserved especially for them: if you study faithfully, the charts start singing for you. Again and again the degrees resonate and repeat till there is no doubt in your mind that somehow, mysteriously, this thing works.
I was reading a long comments’ thread below a blog post that trashes astrology. One of my dearest astrology friends was there valiantly countering and questioning the writer’s uneducated and uninformed opinions about astrology. My friend has Sun in Sagittarius and he displayed it well. You shone, darling, really. But what a waste of your time. Addressing these people who can’t even write well.
A year ago, something like would have elicited a strong reaction from me: anger, irritation and frustration. But these days all I think is that the debunkers should be assigned some astrology homework. I’ve got mine pending and, believe you me, it’s a lot of work.
But I not indifferent to the pain my astrology friends feel. Why? Why this pain that most astrologers must go through at some point in their life? I don’t know. Just as I don’t know how astrology works or how the universe came to be. I wonder if the answer to these questions is beyond the scope of a dualistic, cause-and-effect dimension that we live in and think in.
Even though the answers may elude us and even though some mysteries may always remain mysteries, we still have to walk on our chosen path. And walk we do, despite the pain. Perhaps it’s my ninth house Moon, but nothing dissolves my pain like wisdom. I went to the Sabians with this. And I brought back a message for astrologers. Here it is, from Lynda Hill’s website, http://www.sabiansymbols.com/index.asp:
LIBRA 20
A JEWISH RABBI IN A TINY ROOM FULL OF MANUSCRIPTS AND BOOKS, PERFORMING HIS DUTY
There is age old wisdom and established tradition which has survived to this day. You may need to access this knowledge though instruction or an inner search in order to deal with your situation. There are ‘duties’ and ceremonies that are needed to be performed, either for yourself or for your community. Do what’s needed with faith and reverence.
Connection with ancient sources of truth and understanding. Faith in abiding laws. Inherited wisdom. Books, manuscripts and the written laws. Ceremonies marking life’s journey.
The Caution: Religious dogmatism, following the rules of “the book”. Over-inflated sense of self. Distrust or hate of people from different religions, backgrounds or ethnic origins.
What is astrology to me? Oh, many things. And one of them is that it’s sacred.
Hmm, yeah. Ugh. They can´t even write well. :S
But does the Sun disappear just because they want to close their eyes?
I´m not an Astrologer, but I do respect and admire Astrologers and Astrology. Thanks for this post Neeti.
xoxo
Thanks, darling. xxx
“Does the Sun disappear just because they want to close their eyes?” wow, that’s really wonderful, thanks!
sweet… these days it rolls off my back… i see the mocking of astrology as a left-brain control issue for others…
..and I only bother attempting to illuminate others if they ask. As Benjamin Franklin said, “Never teach a pig to sing. It is a waste of time and it annoys the pig.”
I’ll remember that. xxx
Once upon a time, supposedly educated people mocked those who said the Earth was not the center of the solar system.
Quantum scientists continue to make new discoveries about the world in which we live. And while we do not believe that the planets are actual gods and goddesses, still we do know from statistical evidence that there are influences caused by the interaction of their mass upon the framework of spacetime that affect the environment in which we exist. Or perhaps the planets do not influence anything at all, but are mere cogs in a mechanism that we observe. But in any case, there appears to exist a mechanism, and though we do not understand all of it, still we do observe it: and through the compilation of centuries of observation come the statistics. “When this planet is here, this always seems to happen. When this planet is at this angle to that, something else happens.”
Only an uneducated person would ignore facts that stare them in the face. We as astrologers do not look away from the facts, and say “it cannot be so.” We look back, and say, “How curious…”
Well said, darling. xxx
I love it: a left-brain control issue!
I frequently have people “drop me” like a hot potato when I tell them that I am “into astrology.” Too, in the business world, almost every day I face a certain amount of derision and ridicule when I mention the “A” word. I almost think it’s more controversial than the “F” word in certain circles!
I haven’t met people like that in a while. Not even in the business world. But I’m always expecting to.
Let them mock. Let them be idiots. Their stupidity protects us and the knowledge – more and more I believe in that.
Trying to make Believers out of Disbelievers is a waste of time and effort – equal to trying to make someone Love you. Simply Don’t Do It.
I believe, however, that in my lifetime (I’m 36), probably when Capricorn enters Aquarius, that Astrology and Astrologers will be forced to create Rules and Regulations in order to practice their, hum, trade/art. Like, for instance, if you want to practice Law you have to pass an exam – I think something similar will happen and the True purpose will be to Tame and Control astrology and astrologers. (I’m a biiiit paranoid: scorpio rising…)
About that sabian symbol: my 11th house Uranus is at 19º Libra :p I think the interpretation can also apply. And my Uranus is conjunct… Urania (connected to astrology, if I’m not mistaken).
Keep writing. And mind not the morons.
(Sorry for bad spelling.)
Hi Dunya, that’s lovely, the Urania conjunction. I must check where mine is.
I’ve sometimes wondered if rules and regulations and exams would help.
That’s really cool about Urania, Dunya. Do you have info or could you point me in the right direction? I tried googling “Urania” and only found one site that actually talks about it astrologically. Maybe you’ve written about it? My Spanish is pretty rusty but I can still read it and could probably figure it out as I go.
In my chart Urania is in Cancer in the 11th, forms a grand trine with Neptune in Scorpio in the 3rd and Chiron in Pisces in the 6th. It’s also sextile my Virgo Ascendant. The article I found talks about how wherever Urania is/whatever it aspects it adds precision to that area. I’d love to get some background so I can try to interpret.
Hello;
actually I’m portuguese :p
I went looking for Urania, in english, and found some links. you can see the post I did in my blog (in english):
http://escrita.blogspot.com/2010/06/asteroid-urania.html
I have Uranus/Urania conjunction in the 11th, 7 minutes from partile. The other closer aspects are:
- Opposition Chiron
- Trine Gemini Vertex (in the 8th)
Apparently Urania seem to be proeminent with astrologers.
Thanks for your reply, Dunya! LOL, I should have taken a closer look at your blog (instead of viewing it with my bad eyesight through the little pop-up preview) and would have seen that it is indeed Portuguese. Which I can speak and read/write – although I learned Portuguese in Brazil not Portugal. I think it’s probably a little different.
I appreciate you linking me to the English version of that article though. Thanks again!
You’re welcome
O português falado em Portugal e no Brasil são um pouco diferentes, sim, mas entende-se perfeitamente.
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Dunya
I agree with “aspicco”! and with this post “!Robert Currey on Astrology
Astrology is not something in which you believe or disbelieve. You either know about astrology or you don’t.”
There is too much anger and frustration people outside..don´t worry about..
You make it worth it, Rosario. xxx
Hi Neeti – It’s sad that astrology and astrologers don’t get the respect they deserve; I’m constantly awed by the amazing insights to be gained when guided by a talented practitioner. I think it’s a necessary part of our evolution to look to something greater than ourselves to make sense of it all; whether we seek answers through psychology, philosophy, astrology, or our spiritual faith, there’s room for all, without contradiction.
BTW, 20 degrees Libra is the number of my Venus, ruler of my Libra Sun. With my North Node/Urania just a degree away, I was destined to love all of the above, astrology included. I’m also wise enough to know that I wouldn’t make a very good astrologer. I just learn from them.
You know, LB, it doesn’t matter. I don’t know why. But it doesn’t.
Astrology has survived this long, taught us much, brought us together. It has so much to offer, especially to people in the healing sciences. What a waste, no?
My Sun/Jupiter are here. Love it.
You do it proud, Shannon. xxx
LB re “It’s sad that astrology and astrologers don’t get the respect they deserve”
OK we have beat the dead mule quite sufficiently I believe … but hand me the stick, I’ll hit it again just in case.
This is so much like another issue that I have to reference it. On
http://www.lockergnome.com/it/2007/08/06/what-is-your-definition-of-an-it-professional/
I discuss in this posting about how Information Technology is a relatively new profession relative to the older ‘established’ professions and ought to legitimized. But who holds it back? The people who don’t know it and who wish to keep themselves seemingly in control of those who do.
Likewise, those detractors of Astrology are believing themselves to be in some sort of morally superior position due to some fanatical religious mis-teaching which gives them the illusion of being ‘somebody.’ If you take away their structures — which are built upon shifting sands, and yes that is a Biblical metaphor — then they are nobody.
This is how those who know nothing build up their illusions of themselves so that they can get out of bed in the morning.
Hi Art – I’m assuming you’re referencing my comment on another blog. We absolutely need qualified IT professionals, and I respect the level of training that goes into becoming one. I’m just not one of them, nor would I ever presume to possess the level of expertise necessary to work in that capacity. I use a computer, but my knowledge is limited. I’m no more qualified to earn a living as an IT professional than I am to earn a living as a professional Astrologer. And I agree, there’s no reason for anyone to feel morally superior, nor morally inferior because of their skills or lack thereof. That was the point I was trying to make. No need to be rude.
Sorry Neeti, for this temporary hijack. If you feel the need to delete my comments, I’ll understand.
I’m like you Neeti. Time’s passed I would have leapt into an argument. Astrology, tarot, all the mystical things I have studied for so many years are an integral part of me (9th house stellium!). I still get frustrated with people who debunk without actually bothering to learn anything about it though. I like your idea of assigning them homework, lol.
But these days I just pretty much smile and walk away, turn back to my books and endeavour to study this beautiful and meaningful system we have discovered – try to honour it by learning as much as I can. The only time I will step in is when someone’s right to practice or learn is in danger of being over-ruled.
I just thought it was a relevant parallel issue regarding people who have a certain level of training in a certain thing, be it astrology, or I.T., though both at least to me seem to require a level of ANALYSIS in order to figure the thing out, you know what I mean?
Hi Amy here you can get all the information about Urania you need in english http://ravenesque.net/category/daily-asteroids/ Karen is pretty good in asteroides and if you need some “spanish” Help, just let me know!
Thanks so much, Rosario!
Hi, Neeti. That Sabian symbol is astonishing, isn’t it?
When people ask me what I do for a living, I say,
I’m a CPA (they nod and smile enthusiastically)
who writes a business blog (oh, yes, yes, how interesting)
about the intersection of business and astrology (shock, turn eyes away, look for someone else to talk to.)
Really, it stings sometimes.
Or it can go like this:
I’m an astrologer (oh, really, that’s so cool)
who writes a blog (wow, what’s your website?)
about the intersection of business and astrology (shock, turn eyes away, look for someone else to talk to.)
You make astrology look good, Ellen. She’s a demanding mother and not easy, but there it is. For better or for worse, we are her children. xxx
Guess what:
- July 11th the Solar Eclipse at 19º Cancer will be Square this degreee (which I think is interesting).